143 | The Wall

This week David talks to John Lanchester about his new novel depicting Britain after a climate catastrophe and encircled by a vast wall that must be defended at all costs.  Where does this nightmarish vision come from?  How closely does it track what we know about climate change?  And what does it tell us about our political choices now and in the future?  Plus we discuss the relationship between climate and  capitalism.  https://amzn.to/2Sx7PAD

69 | David Miliband

This week we talk to former Foreign Secretary David Miliband about his new book Rescue: Refugees and the Political Crisis of our Time.  He explains what the refugee crisis tells us about the state of world politics and why it is both so essential and so hard to tackle it.  We also talk about climate change, Brexit, the failures of the Blair government and the fate of social democracy in the new 'age of extremes'.  David Miliband is currently Chair and CEO of the International Rescue Committee (IRC).