247 | Dan Snow on Covid History (and Cummings)

David and Helen talk to the historian Dan Snow about the parallels for the current crisis.  Is it like past pandemics or is it more like a war?  What has it exposed about the weak spots in our societies?  And what have we learned about the role of political leadership?  Plus we explore the value of Churchill comparisons on the 80th anniversary of his great WWII speeches and we dip our toes into the Cummings affair.