241 | What's Happening in Italy Now?

We catch up again with Lucia Rubinelli to discuss the latest developments in Italy.  With anger against the EU on the rise and regional divisions getting more acute, can the Italian government hold it together?  What is Salvini up to?  And will the technocrats try another take over?  Plus Lucia tells us what lockdown has been like for her.

163 | Death of the Republic

We talk to historian Tom Holland about the fall of the Roman Republic and the parallels with today.  Why does Roman history still exert such a strong pull over our imaginations?  Are politicians like Trump and Berlusconi recognisable types from the ancient past?  And is contemporary democracy vulnerable to the same forces that brought down the Roman Republic?  Plus, we discuss Putin's claim that Russia is now the Third Rome.  What is he getting at?  With Helen Thompson.